This episode introduces the role of plant medicines in supporting people navigate traumatic experiences and chronic stress.
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Welcome to the Frontline Herbalism Podcast with your host, Nicole Rose from the
Nicole:Solidarity Apothecary.
Nicole:This is your place for all things plants and
Nicole:liberation.
Nicole:Let's get started.
Nicole:Hello. Welcome back to the Frontline Herbalism Podcast.
Nicole:Today's episode is all about herbal support for trauma.
Nicole:So, yeah, I'm kind of trying to give a little bit of a flavor of what's in the Herbalism
Nicole:PTSD and Traumatic stress course by giving a kind of framework of how I work with plants to
Nicole:respond to trauma.
Nicole:So I introduce a little bit about what is trauma, common trauma dynamics, collective
Nicole:responses to traumatic stress.
Nicole:And then, yeah, go into like, how can plant
Nicole:medicines help us with trauma?
Nicole:Looking at different sorts of nerve ions and herbs for the.
Nicole:That have an affinity with the nervous system.
Nicole:So it's kind of like, yeah, sneak peek of
Nicole:things that I go into in much more depth in the course.
Nicole:But I hope it is valuable for you.
Nicole:The course, the Herbalism PTSD and Traumatic Stress course is still open for enrollment
Nicole:until Sunday, the 13th of April.
Nicole:So, yeah, I'm so overwhelmed by how many
Nicole:people have been supportive.
Nicole:I put an email out on my email list yesterday asking if folks could just share it on their
Nicole:networks because I'm kind of struggling at the moment, if you didn't know.
Nicole:The course is obviously like an amazing offering, but it is also like the main way I
Nicole:generate funds for the Solidarity Apothecary.
Nicole:So that means like, every course contribution
Nicole:goes towards,
Nicole:you know, paying for the costs involved in making herbal care packages that go out to
Nicole:frontline organizers around the world, like protest sites, occupations,
Nicole:you know, grassroots groups, like resisting oppression, like all over the place.
Nicole:It pays for hundreds of prisoners herbal books to go out every single month again across the
Nicole:world.
Nicole:And it also covers my time in everything that
Nicole:I do in terms of workshops and creating content and supporting people one to one,
Nicole:which is something I'll be returning to.
Nicole:And yeah, when I used to go to Calais would also kind of enable me to do that with the
Nicole:mobile herbal clinic, for example.
Nicole:So, yeah, I, yeah, want to keep doing this
Nicole:work of supporting people experiencing state violence like with herbalism.
Nicole:And yeah, just everyone's support is just amazing in helping keep this project going and
Nicole:enabling me to focus on it full time.
Nicole:So, yeah, thank you for all your support.
Nicole:Yeah. Please check out the course page if you haven't heard about it.
Nicole:Please share this episode with anyone who you think is curious about the roles that herbs
Nicole:can play in.
Nicole:Yeah, the kind of,
Nicole:yeah.
Nicole:The suffering and the life experiences and the
Nicole:hardship that humans go through.
Nicole:All over the world.
Nicole:And I know that harm is definitely not evenly distributed in terms of who is experiencing
Nicole:oppression.
Nicole:But yeah, all humans.
Nicole:All humans, like, suffer and go through, you
Nicole:know, life experiences of distress and grief and loss and change.
Nicole:And plants can accompany us.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Over a lifetime.
Nicole:So that's why I love them so much.
Nicole:Anyway, thank you for listening.
Nicole:I will let you get on with the episode.
Nicole:Okay, take care.
Nicole:Bye.
Nicole:Okay, so I'm gonna dive into herbal support for trauma.
Nicole:And yeah, just a couple of content warnings that I do reference kind of traumatic things
Nicole:as like little examples.
Nicole:I don't go into loads of detail, but I might
Nicole:be like, oh, for example, you can see this in an abusive relations or you can see this in
Nicole:prison.
Nicole:So, yeah, just a kind of heads up that that's in this episode.
Nicole:If you want to skip forward to the herbal content, I totally understand and I'll do my
Nicole:best to kind of keep the trauma related things at the beginning of the episode.
Nicole:Okay, so, yeah, what is trauma? So there is no single definition.
Nicole:It comes from the Greek word for wound or damage.
Nicole:And one kind of framing that I really like is that trauma is a distressing, disturbing or
Nicole:wounding experience or injury experienced in many ways over a lifetime.
Nicole:Because I think lots of people will be like, oh, I haven't experienced trauma, but have you
Nicole:ever experienced distress, for example? And I think most humans, or nearly all humans
Nicole:will through their lifetime.
Nicole:And also distress looks differently, Right? Like maybe that's losing a loved one or maybe
Nicole:that's having a car accident.
Nicole:It's like, yeah, I think distress is kind of
Nicole:like, yeah, a kind of inclusive way of framing the huge spectrum of life experiences that
Nicole:someone can go through over a lifetime.
Nicole:But trauma is also starting to be recognized as like, the response to these experiences.
Nicole:So the response in the body and the nervous system to a distressing, disturbing, or
Nicole:wounding experience.
Nicole:And yeah, that I explore that a lot more in the herbalism, PTSD and traumatic stress
Nicole:course, you know, where I dive into all of this stuff in much more detail.
Nicole:But just to kind of set the scene like we explore in the course, like common trauma
Nicole:dynamics.
Nicole:And I'm going to run through like a few of
Nicole:these now.
Nicole:So, yeah, often there is a threat to life.
Nicole:So that means maybe our life is threatened or we are witnessing someone else's life be
Nicole:threatened.
Nicole:You know, in traditional PTSD literature that might be like, what, you know, seeing someone
Nicole:in a car accident, for example, or being in a car accident yourself.
Nicole:Maybe it's, you know, being in a ******* genocide and, you know, experiencing and
Nicole:witnessing death, like, relentlessly.
Nicole:Or, you know, it could also be feeling like your life is threatened.
Nicole:So, for example,
Nicole:growing up in a kind of violent household where you're regularly fearing for your
Nicole:safety, that is a kind of common trauma dynamic that encapsulates like, threat to
Nicole:life.
Nicole:Trauma will commonly, like, alter or destroy our assumptions of safety.
Nicole:And not everyone grows up with a feeling of safety by any means.
Nicole:But oftentimes people might have, like, a baseline sense of the world as being kind of
Nicole:safe, and then that's just, you know, completely altered by trauma.
Nicole:So, for example, if someone has had, like a general, you know, okay, dynamic with other
Nicole:humans and relating and different partners and things, and then experiences sexual assault,
Nicole:for example, that might kind of alter or destroy their assumptions of safety, like
Nicole:thereforward.
Nicole:Trauma often also involves situations of abandonment and powerlessness.
Nicole:So that can mean that we're rendered helpless by, like, an overwhelming force.
Nicole:And that can be something like a, you know, like a tsunami or like a quote unquote,
Nicole:natural disaster.
Nicole:Because, you know, I know people challenge the concept of natural disasters because so many
Nicole:of them are attributed to, like, human induced climate change or capitalism induced climate
Nicole:change.
Nicole:But, yeah, often it's like being rendered helpless by something more powerful than
Nicole:ourselves.
Nicole:Trauma often involves disconnection from others.
Nicole:So, for example, that could be like social alienation,
Nicole:you know, in an abusive relationship that disconnects you from other people or, you
Nicole:know, an institution like prison or psychiatric hospital, for example.
Nicole:And yeah, a common trauma dynamic is captivity.
Nicole:So this,
Nicole:you know, has like, a whole range of trauma dynamics, such as, like, an inability to
Nicole:escape,
Nicole:prolonged and repeated coercive control, threat of death or harm, isolation,
Nicole:submission, violation of our own moral principles and dehumanisation.
Nicole:And I kind of go into each of those in more depth in the course, but just to kind of give
Nicole:you an overview.
Nicole:And yeah, trauma generally instills fear, right?
Nicole:And fear can look like moving forward.
Nicole:That can look like intense anxiety or hyper
Nicole:vigilance.
Nicole:Vigilance or distress, nightmares, things like
Nicole:this.
Nicole:And it is worth naming that trauma is often not just like a standalone thing, like it
Nicole:commonly compounds with other traumatic experiences.
Nicole:So someone might have a very traumatic childhood with a lot of abuse and neglect, and
Nicole:then, for example, end up in the prison system.
Nicole:Or they might end up having an abusive relationship when they're older or experience
Nicole:sexual trauma, something like this.
Nicole:Or maybe someone has grown up with intense
Nicole:racism and racial trauma, and they've experienced that with the birth of their child
Nicole:and experienced birth trauma and medical trauma, all of these forms of Trauma commonly
Nicole:kind of interact with each other and build.
Nicole:And yeah, it's not just one.
Nicole:This kind of compounding nature is very real.
Nicole:So yeah, how can trauma affect the body? It is worth saying that there are patterns of
Nicole:how the body expresses distress and that would lead to frameworks such as a PTSD diagnosis.
Nicole:And the course has a whole lesson all about exploring the political consequences of using
Nicole:language like diagnosis or tools of psychiatry and things as tools of oppression.
Nicole:But I like to think that people will self identify what works for them and what's
Nicole:empowering for them because diagnostic labels can be empowering for some people.
Nicole:But yeah, there are common patterns of how the body expresses distress.
Nicole:But we all kind of have our own fault lines.
Nicole:So we all have our own ways.
Nicole:Someone's anxiety might result in a lot of
Nicole:kind of gut issues or diarrhea or you know, gut related anxiety and someone else's that
Nicole:might result in like musculoskeletal pain, for example.
Nicole:So yeah, I just want to say that, you know, we're intimately connected to our environments
Nicole:and like everything we go through in our lives is shaping our body and our kind of
Nicole:physiology, like all the time.
Nicole:Okay. So yeah, these kind of patterns that I've put together in the course of how the
Nicole:body expresses distress are like sleep disturbances,
Nicole:changes in world memories, flashbacks and triggers, chronic disconnectedness, arousal
Nicole:and reactivity.
Nicole:And yeah, I go into kind of depth about what
Nicole:they look like, but I'm just going to give like a kind of summary.
Nicole:So starting I think with the most common which is this like arousal and reactivity.
Nicole:And I don't mean arousal like a kind of sexual arousal, I mean arousal as in like you're like
Nicole:on like high alert and you're activated.
Nicole:So if you think about it, if you had been attacked by a bear, for example, it would make
Nicole:sense that you were waiting to be attacked again, that every time you went for a walk in
Nicole:the woods you'd be hyper vigilant that you're going to find a bear and it's going to happen
Nicole:again.
Nicole:So it is absolute survival part of the nervous system.
Nicole:And yeah, this arousal and reactivity involves the sympathetic nervous system.
Nicole:So again in the course I dive into nervous system physiology and that's why it's really
Nicole:important to understand these kind of different aspects of the nervous system.
Nicole:So yeah, hyper arousal looks like kind of the activation of the sympathetic nervous system.
Nicole:So this is our like fight, flight, freeze response.
Nicole:And I talk about that a lot more in the course when we do the nervous system deep dive.
Nicole:But yeah, generally we're in sort of like this fight and flight kind of activated state.
Nicole:There's often like a high emotional charge and often like after trauma, there's like an
Nicole:increasing reactivity over time.
Nicole:Hyper vigilance.
Nicole:So for example, feeling constantly on edge,
Nicole:scanning for danger, suspicion, muscle tension.
Nicole:Like I said, like if you're walking into the woods where you've been attacked by a bear,
Nicole:you're going to be on kind of high alert.
Nicole:And yeah, there are often real expressions of anger and rage and on a kind of lower level,
Nicole:like irritability,
Nicole:there might be feelings of grief, there might be feelings and kind of desires for revenge
Nicole:and like needing to kind of like fight this sort of injustice, if that makes sense.
Nicole:Often this kind of reactive state comes with like, quote unquote, like impaired emotional
Nicole:control.
Nicole:So someone isn't necessarily capable of really
Nicole:like regulating their emotions and kind of staying like quote unquote calm.
Nicole:Like, you know, they feel a sense of aggression and hostility.
Nicole:And often, you know, this kind of trauma response results in like destructive behavior,
Nicole:for example, recklessness or.
Nicole:Yeah, self harm or suicidality or kind of seeking respite from the distress with things
Nicole:like drugs or alcohol or workaholism, for example.
Nicole:And I know those are all like really complex areas.
Nicole:You know, I've done workshops and trainings around supporting people who are suicidal, for
Nicole:example.
Nicole:So I don't.
Nicole:Yeah, I just want to give a disclaimer that these are all really, really complicated
Nicole:things that we go into more depth in the course.
Nicole:But yeah, with this sort of arousal and reactivity response, like we have basically
Nicole:like this heightened fear of the world and there's this altered baseline.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:So there's a kind of reference to this like
Nicole:fear of the ordinary.
Nicole:So it's not like you're frightened and everything makes sense because you should be
Nicole:frightened.
Nicole:For example, living in like a literal
Nicole:genocide, like in Gaza, for example, it's more like once something is over and you're still
Nicole:experiencing that same level of fear, that is kind of what trauma looks like in the body.
Nicole:Does that make sense? So, yeah, often there's feelings of overwhelm.
Nicole:And you know, people can be completely paralyzed by a sense of overwhelm.
Nicole:And you know, that can lead to things like difficulty concentrating, for example,
Nicole:things like panic attacks, but also just like anxiety, just like generalized unfocused
Nicole:anxiety, like this feeling of kind of dread and like innate despair.
Nicole:Okay. And another aspect of how distress is kind of moving through the body is like sleep
Nicole:disturbances.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:So people will have trouble falling asleep or staying Asleep, they often commonly have
Nicole:insomnia.
Nicole:There'll be patterns of nightmares and distressing dreams.
Nicole:And that's something the herbalism, PTSD and traumatic stress goes into a lot more depth
Nicole:around things like nutritional deficiencies that affect your sleep and that can cause or
Nicole:contribute to worsening nightmares,
Nicole:you know, as well as things like,
Nicole:you know, the amazing variety of plants that can help you sleep, but, you know, can also
Nicole:worsen nightmares sometimes.
Nicole:So I talk about all those nuances in depth.
Nicole:Another aspect of trauma is chronic disconnectedness.
Nicole:So, for example,
Nicole:relationship challenges, you know, struggling to trust people, struggling to feel safe,
Nicole:feeling fearful when, like, interacting with other people, potentially self isolating
Nicole:altogether, feeling alienated, having kind of diminished interest in, like, socializing and
Nicole:connection.
Nicole:And there's also this like, self disconnection, you know, like sensations of
Nicole:dissociation or feeling numb or feeling hopeless.
Nicole:And then.
Nicole:Yeah, changes in worldview are like a large
Nicole:factor in trauma.
Nicole:So there is often this like, moment of kind of rupture where, like, our assumptions of safety
Nicole:about the world, about, you know, the meaning of life, about our purpose, you know, maybe we
Nicole:have like a relationship with God that we lose.
Nicole:For example, when, you know, going through something traumatic,
Nicole:there's often a feeling of being kind of betrayed.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:There's often a sensation of grief or guilt or
Nicole:shame, feeling unlovable.
Nicole:You know, generally trauma comes with negative
Nicole:beliefs about ourselves and about the world, you know, that we come to expect the worst,
Nicole:you know, and often that can lead to even just a feeling of like,
Nicole:really not caring if we live or die, for example.
Nicole:Example.
Nicole:And yet there's often this kind of constant state of stress.
Nicole:So feeling the strain and pressure and that, you know, we don't have the resources to meet
Nicole:the demands of our lives.
Nicole:And that life is like exceeding our ability to cope.
Nicole:And that's because our nervous system is not just dealing with the here and now, it's also
Nicole:dealing with like, everything we've been through, for example.
Nicole:And, you know, there's loads of factors that contribute to what worsens these dynamics.
Nicole:Things like uncertainty and lack of information and loss of.
Nicole:Of control.
Nicole:And. Yeah, I go into that stuff in much more depth in the course.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:And then the other kind of category in this
Nicole:common ways that the body expresses distress is memories, flashbacks and triggers.
Nicole:And, you know, this is like a big section in an in and of itself.
Nicole:But it's really common for people who've experienced trauma to experience like,
Nicole:recurrent, involuntary and distressing memories.
Nicole:On the other foot, people can also have a lot of amnesia and Memory loss and challenges and
Nicole:kind of recall.
Nicole:In the course, I talk more about what flashbacks are, you know, that they're sort of
Nicole:unintegrated, unprocessed memories of, like, an overwhelming event.
Nicole:And triggers are, like, emotional and physiological reactions to reminders of, you
Nicole:know, and, like, warnings of what is safe and not safe.
Nicole:And, you know, they're not just historical.
Nicole:It's not just like, oh, this happened, so
Nicole:therefore it's my trigger.
Nicole:It's also like, this person's being, like,
Nicole:racist right now, and that is, like a current trigger.
Nicole:Does that make sense? Often there is, like, an avoidance of triggers
Nicole:a lot, but people can also be drawn to their triggers and, you know, especially when trauma
Nicole:has become a sort of source of meaning and aliveness.
Nicole:And, you know, I've definitely seen this in people that do sort of, like, frontline kind
Nicole:of organizing type work.
Nicole:So, yeah, there's also,
Nicole:you know, like, a whole plethora of emotional strategies to cope with trauma.
Nicole:Like people minimizing things, saying everything is fine, or suppression, like,
Nicole:refusing to discuss what's happened.
Nicole:Whereas other people, it's this kind of dramatization, like, this feeling that they
Nicole:can't stop talking about it.
Nicole:And some people just constantly need to analyze what's happened.
Nicole:And other people just have to kind of enter this, like, flight state of, you know,
Nicole:completely changing, moving away, changing who they are, for example, to kind of cope with.
Nicole:Yeah, that rupture.
Nicole:So, yeah, I would just kind of ask you to
Nicole:reflect on, like, how do you commonly express distress?
Nicole:Like, is it kind of more anxiety or is it a sensation of grief?
Nicole:Or are you someone whose sleep just goes off, like, as soon as you're experiencing something
Nicole:stressful or distressing? You know, like, that's why I think the course
Nicole:is important, because it introduces, like, this whole diversity of ways we can express
Nicole:distress.
Nicole:And that's, like, a key way of finding which plant medicines are gonna hopefully be allies
Nicole:and work with us.
Nicole:Because, yeah, we all kind of have unique ways
Nicole:of expressing trauma and distress.
Nicole:And therefore there's also plants that can help with those kind of corresponding.
Nicole:Corresponding ways that we're expressing distress.
Nicole:Okay, I hope that makes sense.
Nicole:So now I'm just gonna give, like, a teeny,
Nicole:teeny, teeny, teeny introduction to the nervous system before I dive into, like,
Nicole:plants and their kind of.
Nicole:Yeah. Offerings for people experiencing trauma.
Nicole:Um, so I've just shared a couple of posts on my Instagram, actually, with, like, nice
Nicole:graphics and things about explaining these nervous system states and, oh, my God, it is
Nicole:so difficult to talk about them in like any brevity.
Nicole:But you may have heard me mention before, the sympathetic nervous system.
Nicole:So this is like a network of nerves through our body that enables the body to kind of act.
Nicole:You know, it's like a state of mobilization.
Nicole:It activates our fight or flight response.
Nicole:You know, say we see a car like coming at us at 60 miles an hour.
Nicole:Our body is going to communicate to us like right, we need to get the **** out of the way
Nicole:and we're going to get adrenaline.
Nicole:You know, there's going to be like a whole range of physiological effects like increased
Nicole:heart rate, increased blood pressure, fast metabolism, like so many things, you know,
Nicole:increased strength, like.
Nicole:Yeah. Then that's going to just enable us to like achieve our safety or try and achieve our
Nicole:safety.
Nicole:So yeah, this is just such a brief introduction.
Nicole:But yeah, the sympathetic nervous system has so many functions, but when it's in this state
Nicole:kind of longer term or chronically, that's when we start to have like health issues.
Nicole:I talk about these in like a binary, but I say in the course how they're definitely not a
Nicole:binary and there's like much more complicated kind of things to do with these nervous system
Nicole:states.
Nicole:I don't know if you can hear the dog starring in the background, but he's really distracting
Nicole:me.
Nicole:So the parasympathetic nervous system is another, you know, network of nerves that
Nicole:helps us to like rest and digest our food.
Nicole:You know, the short acronym is like rest and
Nicole:digest.
Nicole:So in this state we are supported to have, you know, increased immunity.
Nicole:We can feel a sense of calmness and connection and a sensation of safety and yeah, there's
Nicole:like really this ability to like feel safe and social and to kind of relate to other people
Nicole:and you know,
Nicole:non humans.
Nicole:But yeah, and in this state this is when the body like repairs itself.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:It conserves the energy of the body and it
Nicole:repairs tissues.
Nicole:Which is why when you're in a really chronic
Nicole:state of stress and you get a long term chronic illness, it's very difficult to kind
Nicole:of.
Nicole:Yeah. Enable the body's kind of natural inclination to move towards like self healing.
Nicole:Because we need to be in this nervous system state to enable that to happen.
Nicole:Which is why people that have experienced significant trauma, like it's a real
Nicole:challenge, especially if you've grown up as a kid being in like a dominant sympathetic fight
Nicole:or flight state.
Nicole:And herbs are ******* amazing because they can be our biggest teachers in cultivating and
Nicole:understanding of how we feel when we're in this more kind of calm parasympathetic state.
Nicole:And this state is really essential for preparing us for sleep.
Nicole:And, yeah, it triggers, like, a whole raft of physiological effects, like lowering our blood
Nicole:pressure, for example.
Nicole:So in the course, I do a real deep dive into the different nervous system states through
Nicole:this framework of, like, the polyvagal theory.
Nicole:And I'm not going to introduce that now because that's like a whole other podcast, but
Nicole:you can Google it.
Nicole:And the sort of different states that I
Nicole:introduce in much more depth with examples.
Nicole:And things are safe and social.
Nicole:So this is our kind of parasympathetic state
Nicole:where, you know, we're able to connect with people.
Nicole:We feel socially engaged.
Nicole:And that's very different, for example, to being in the fight response, which is when,
Nicole:you know, we might feel, like, anger or hostility or irritability, like desire to
Nicole:argue with people,
Nicole:you know, like muscle tension, stuff like this.
Nicole:Whereas flight often is more like we just need to get out of there, you know, and there's.
Nicole:Yeah, again, it's so impossible to abbreviate these states.
Nicole:But flight might look like bursting into tears, for example.
Nicole:But, yeah, it's just this kind of desperate need to.
Nicole:Yeah, to kind of.
Nicole:Yeah. To distance ourselves from whatever's triggering us, if that makes sense.
Nicole:Sorry, that's not the greatest explanation.
Nicole:It's so hard to summarize these states.
Nicole:But, yeah, generally, flight is us, like.
Nicole:Yeah. Needing to kind of move away.
Nicole:And then there's shutdown.
Nicole:So this is when this is actually a type of
Nicole:kind of parasympathetic state.
Nicole:So it's not just kind of calm, but it's
Nicole:actually like, if you think of a possum, it's like playing dead.
Nicole:It's like when our system kind of shuts down.
Nicole:And, yeah, I give various examples of that, of people that have experienced trauma and how
Nicole:that can be a consequence for lots of people to be in, like, a really depressed,
Nicole:dissociated shutdown state.
Nicole:And then we have our, like, mixed states.
Nicole:So this is when we might have a lot of
Nicole:activation, but actually we're kind of frozen.
Nicole:So the freeze state is like, the title of
Nicole:that.
Nicole:And play is like, when we feeling safe and social and engaged, but actually we're kind of
Nicole:activated.
Nicole:You know, that might be in sport or during sex
Nicole:or intimacy, for example.
Nicole:And then we have stillness.
Nicole:So that's when we're in kind of the
Nicole:parasympathetic state.
Nicole:But, you know, we're also, again, feeling kind
Nicole:of safe and social, but in a, like, still way.
Nicole:So, yeah, I dive into those in so Much detail in the course.
Nicole:But I'm going to move into talking about herbal support now.
Nicole:And I just want to give the context of these so that, you know, this section, this section
Nicole:makes sense.
Nicole:Okay, so yeah, just before I dive into the herbal stuff, there is an entire module in the
Nicole:course which includes a trauma response framework which is looking at collective
Nicole:responses to stress.
Nicole:And you can read about this a little bit on the course page.
Nicole:But it's basically structured as rest and renew.
Nicole:So that's basically after any kind of traumatic experience, like the body will need
Nicole:to rest, for example.
Nicole:I'm sure if people have lost someone they
Nicole:love, they'll know that after a big kind of bereavement that there comes this kind of wave
Nicole:of exhaustion and a desperate need for kind of hibernation and isolation and tourism past.
Nicole:And I've got here renew.
Nicole:So it's like we need to basically have
Nicole:resources to recover from those experiences.
Nicole:And herbs are like one part of that toolkit,
Nicole:right, that can help us rest and can also help us renew in terms of repairing tissues.
Nicole:But all of these, all of these, like frameworks demand, you know, are part of like
Nicole:collective responses.
Nicole:So in the course I talk about what are the
Nicole:ways we can like connect with other people and rest with other people, for example.
Nicole:And yeah, the next phase of the framework is reconnect.
Nicole:So like, you know, unfortunately,
Nicole:well, not unfortunately, but we need other people like humans need humans.
Nicole:Like, no matter how much we think we don't, we really do.
Nicole:And so it's all about how can we like, move towards, like social connection and
Nicole:reconnection.
Nicole:And plants are fantastic at helping us stretch that muscle and build those muscles in
Nicole:connection because we can trust plants.
Nicole:Like they're not humans.
Nicole:You know, non humans are incredibly healing because they're very different to people,
Nicole:especially for people who've experienced trauma.
Nicole:And then there's also release, which actually I should have talked about first in this
Nicole:framework.
Nicole:But it's not a linear framework.
Nicole:Like it is cyclical and non linear.
Nicole:But release is like, generally if someone's
Nicole:been through a kind of traumatic experience, like then we've got all that like embodied
Nicole:energy,
Nicole:you know, that rage, that anger, that irritability and frustration and that needs to
Nicole:come out, you know, and maybe that comes out in like intense physical exercise or maybe
Nicole:that comes out with screaming or singing or some sort of creative project.
Nicole:But yet release is like a fundamental part of kind of trauma response.
Nicole:And I've also included like resistance and revolution.
Nicole:So we need to be addressing the causes of trauma.
Nicole:You Know, and a lot of people that have gone through something traumatic have then gone on
Nicole:to help other people that are experiencing that, Whether that's survivors of sexual
Nicole:violence going on to support other survivors or ex prisoners going on to, you know,
Nicole:organized prison solidarity and abolitionist stuff.
Nicole:It's like, what is the point in recovering and healing and doing all of this work to try and.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:Feel like a ****** human again?
Nicole:If we can't, then, you know, kind of support other people and try and address the causes of
Nicole:the trauma.
Nicole:Which are, like, nearly all political, Right? Well, they are all political.
Nicole:So, anyway, just disclaimer, before I get into the herbal things that.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:That I include this kind of whole module about
Nicole:collectivity and sort of structural change and how we can respond to trauma together.
Nicole:Okay.
Nicole:All right.
Nicole:So, yeah, in terms of herbal support for
Nicole:trauma, like, I'm sorry, I've got, like, a massive A module course all about this.
Nicole:And I'm trying so hard to summarize it.
Nicole:But, yeah, I am a real passionate, kind of relational herbalist in the sense of.
Nicole:I think it is the act of herbalism that is healing.
Nicole:So it's not just like, oh, took this tincture, and it helped me with this.
Nicole:This and this symptom.
Nicole:It's actually like, no, I am building
Nicole:relationships with plants and practicing herbalism, you know, learning, like, herbal
Nicole:skills, and that is what's really healing.
Nicole:Because herbalism is really based on
Nicole:relationships.
Nicole:So, yeah, plant medicines can kind of transform your life by enabling this deeper
Nicole:relationship with the land, which is, like, super restorative because of, you know,
Nicole:all the things.
Nicole:Colonialism, industrialism, like capitalism,
Nicole:like, everything.
Nicole:All the forces in the world that are trying to
Nicole:separate us and sever us from the land are kind of traumatizing us in different ways.
Nicole:And therefore,
Nicole:reconnecting with the land and having a relationship with the world is, like, in my
Nicole:opinion, like, intrinsically kind of healing in just, like, so many ways that so many
Nicole:people have talked about and described and things.
Nicole:Okay. So plant medicines can also really, actually help with kind of tangible health
Nicole:challenges as well.
Nicole:For example, improving our sleep and
Nicole:digestion, preventing, you know, chronic disease and reducing inflammation that is
Nicole:likely to be occurring because of this, like, chronic overactivation of the nervous system
Nicole:and just.
Nicole:Yeah. Aiding the nervous system to rest and recover while we're doing, like, challenging,
Nicole:difficult work, like, you know, surviving in this world and resisting oppression.
Nicole:So, yeah, I just.
Nicole:Before I, you know, go into all of the plant
Nicole:things, I just want to just cover my bases, that I encourage you to kind of research
Nicole:herbal Safety.
Nicole:And, you know, don't start working with a plant just because of something I've
Nicole:recommended here.
Nicole:You know, do further research, check any
Nicole:contraindications if this herb is safe in pregnancy or safe with any, like, medication
Nicole:or pharmaceuticals you're taking, etc.
Nicole:Etc.
Nicole:Okay, so what are nervines? So, just a loose definition.
Nicole:They are herbs with an affinity for the nervous system.
Nicole:And I'm just gonna briefly introduce the different kinds.
Nicole:So I'm gonna talk about relaxant nervines, cardiac nervines, hypnotic nerve ends, nerve
Nicole:tonics, and stimulating nervines.
Nicole:All right, so the first category is relaxant
Nicole:nervines.
Nicole:And these help the body reduce that activation
Nicole:of the sympathetic nervous system.
Nicole:So that's why I try to introduce these kind of two nervous system states.
Nicole:So these herbs can kind of like tone down that, like, fight or flight response.
Nicole:And they can also support us to access a more parasympathetic.
Nicole:Parasympathetic system states.
Nicole:So they can help trigger feelings of
Nicole:relaxation and rest and recovery.
Nicole:Generally, they're kind of common actions is
Nicole:they often help reduce anxiety and they can aid sleep.
Nicole:Many of them have an action like that helps lower blood pressure.
Nicole:And, yeah, we have this word in herbalism called a carminative, and it basically means
Nicole:something that's kind of calming and antispasmodic on the guts.
Nicole:And they can also help relieve tension, like, elsewhere in the body.
Nicole:And they often have, like, a direct action on neurotransmitters,
Nicole:which is something I talk about more in depth in the herbalism PTSD and traumatic stress
Nicole:course, where I sort of go into common neurotransmitters.
Nicole:And, yeah, different research around herbal medicine and that.
Nicole:But, yeah, some of the common ones that I profile, like, in depth in the course include
Nicole:lavender,
Nicole:lemon balm, chamomile, catnip, and fever view.
Nicole:And I like to think of relaxant irvines as, like, really fantastic for that kind of
Nicole:background,
Nicole:background anxiety, like that background activation where we don't feel good, if that
Nicole:makes sense.
Nicole:Like, we feel that underlying anxiety, like,
Nicole:almost like you've got a browser open with, like, 50 tabs.
Nicole:Like, that's what I think anxiety can feel like to lots of people.
Nicole:So relaxant nervines just, like, help close the tabs.
Nicole:Does that make any sense? I feel like that's such an Aquarian metaphor.
Nicole:Okay, so, yeah, the other.
Nicole:The kind of next category that I explore in
Nicole:the course are cardiac nervines.
Nicole:And I just want to say that these herbs can be
Nicole:in like multiple categories.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:Like many of these ones I'm going to talk
Nicole:about now are also relaxant nervines.
Nicole:But yeah, cardiac nervines can support the
Nicole:nervous system through their affinity with the heart and the cardiovascular system.
Nicole:And in the course I like do a kind of introduction to herbal energetics.
Nicole:But we have these kind of this language of.
Nicole:And you know, traditional medicine systems all
Nicole:over the world have had this.
Nicole:We have a language of, you know, is something cooling or warming or moistening or drying,
Nicole:for example.
Nicole:And our kind of cardiac nervines are commonly
Nicole:cooling and they're often moistening as well,
Nicole:but not always.
Nicole:But yeah, they can also kind of support the emotional heart like especially around kind of
Nicole:grief and everything like heart related, like heartbreak.
Nicole:So yeah, the herbs that I profile in the course include yarrow, hawthorn, motherwort,
Nicole:rose and linden flowers, or some people call them lime flowers.
Nicole:But yeah, they have a ton of amazing actions.
Nicole:You know, like I've said, a lot of them are
Nicole:relaxants.
Nicole:So they have this relaxant action through the
Nicole:body helping relax muscles and blood vessels, which is really important when we're in sort
Nicole:of fight or flight because that has such an impact on our sort of vasculature.
Nicole:They can help reduce blood pressure.
Nicole:They often contain flavonoids, which help kind
Nicole:of protect the vasculature from, from oxidative of stress and damage.
Nicole:And you know.
Nicole:Yeah, there's like a whole load of stuff in
Nicole:the course around how trauma relates to chronic illness.
Nicole:So if we're thinking about things like inflammation in the cardiovascular system or
Nicole:you know, having more kind of,
Nicole:you know, glucose in the blood, for example, blood sugar issues, that's often because
Nicole:people are in fight or flight a lot.
Nicole:Right.
Nicole:And if you know you're experiencing trauma or systemic oppression, that's putting you in
Nicole:fight or flight more.
Nicole:You're going to have more, more risk to things like type 2 diabetes, for example.
Nicole:But yeah, Hawthorne can be very protective like with the arteries and blood vessels in
Nicole:general.
Nicole:And yeah, I mentioned about cholesterol and they, you know, some of these cardiac nerve
Nicole:ions can also help with the kind of circulation in the heart itself.
Nicole:Helping with things like angina.
Nicole:Yeah. And you know, they can also help with like things like heart palpitations or heart
Nicole:activity rhythm, for example, Mother walks.
Nicole:That's, it's got like specific cardiotonic
Nicole:properties and.
Nicole:Yeah.
Nicole:And things like, you know, say someone's experiencing a panic attack and is having like
Nicole:a lot of heart palpitations.
Nicole:We might, that might be an indication for
Nicole:working with cardiac nervines.
Nicole:And, yeah, they can also really support with sleep, like lime flowers, for example.
Nicole:So, yeah, I dive into detail in the course about all of these plants in detail.
Nicole:But, yeah, they're really just the most beautiful category of plants.
Nicole:Plants.
Nicole:Not that plants fit into neat categories by any means.
Nicole:So another kind of area of herbalism that can support with trauma recovery is hypnotic or
Nicole:like, sedative nervines.
Nicole:So, like I mentioned, when I talk about how
Nicole:trauma affects the body, sleep disturbances are really, you know, what is, like, extremely
Nicole:common in terms of, you know, people having gone through trauma,
Nicole:like being very affected commonly by insomnia or nightmares or struggling to get to sleep,
Nicole:for example.
Nicole:So, yeah, these herbs can really help with
Nicole:those different areas.
Nicole:They can also have a kind of, again, a strong,
Nicole:like, antispasmodic action for pain and tension.
Nicole:If you're someone who experiences stress a lot in terms of, like, musculoskeletal pain, then,
Nicole:yeah, they can help trigger this sort of state of relaxation.
Nicole:I think it's really important to talk about, like, the nuances of this and, like, of these
Nicole:and lots of people who've experienced trauma, like, sometimes that is in a kind of sedated
Nicole:state.
Nicole:Just content warning here,
Nicole:but say, for example, you've been sexually assaulted in your sleep, like many of us have,
Nicole:then it makes complete sense that the body would not want to fall asleep or not want to,
Nicole:like, be in that sedated state.
Nicole:een sober, for example, since:Nicole:Just got ******* tired of being sexually assaulted when I was kind of drunk or in,
Nicole:like, an altered state.
Nicole:And so, yeah, like, I think working with herbs that can alter your state is kind of tricky
Nicole:territory for people.
Nicole:Might not be appropriate for people, for example, in recovery.
Nicole:Yeah, so that's, you know, those are, like, the nuances that I talk about a lot in the
Nicole:course.
Nicole:And it's important to sort of say that.
Nicole:But, yeah, examples of these herbs can include, like, mugwort, California poppy,
Nicole:hops,
Nicole:wild lettuce, passion flower, skullcap, valerian, and others.
Nicole:Those are some of the babes that I profile in the course in more depth.
Nicole:And yeah, I've just done a little series on Instagram about,
Nicole:like, herbal support for nightmares.
Nicole:And I actually talk about some of these and
Nicole:people have been, like, sharing in the comments their experiences of, hey, mugwort
Nicole:gave me nightmares.
Nicole:Or, you know, I had much worse nightmares with
Nicole:valerian.
Nicole:I found it really stimulating.
Nicole:And, yeah, it's just been really interesting
Nicole:and fascinating to hear, like, Other people's experiences with these plants.
Nicole:Okay, so nerve tonics are also like another.
Nicole:I keep saying, like, the same ******
Nicole:adjectives, like, amazing, incredible.
Nicole:But just herbs are amazing and incredible,
Nicole:FYI.
Nicole:And if you do the course, you will be
Nicole:completely hooked.
Nicole:But, yeah, these nerve tonics are, like, the foundation of my practice as a herbalist.
Nicole:So they're really kind of supporting to, like, tonify and strengthen and, like, restore the
Nicole:kind of proper functioning and structure of the nervous system.
Nicole:So, yeah, the plants that I explore in the course include milky oats, betony, licorice,
Nicole:St. John's Wort, Tulsi, evening primrose,
Nicole:elderberry, schisandra,
Nicole:ashwagandha, vervain, and others.
Nicole:And, yeah, they have.
Nicole:You know, they're, like, hard to categorize because they have, like, such a diverse
Nicole:spectrum of medicinal actions, like, across them.
Nicole:But generally, we're working with nerve tonics to, you know, achieve things like addressing
Nicole:nutritional deficiencies or, you know, literally helping with the.
Nicole:Excuse me, like, repair of the nervous system.
Nicole:So in the nervous system deep dive, I go through, you know, like, just like, very basic
Nicole:stuff around, like, nerve cells and things.
Nicole:And one part of this is explaining about the
Nicole:myelin sheath, which is this kind of layer of fat that surrounds the nerves.
Nicole:And often people have nervous system issues when they have, like, a deficiency of fat in
Nicole:their diet.
Nicole:Which is another reason why I make this, like,
Nicole:super heavenly lavender oil, because it's, like, a really fantastic way of getting fat to
Nicole:our cells without, you know, necessarily eating it.
Nicole:But, yeah, and I'm talking about kind of like healthy, nourishing fats here, like olive oil
Nicole:and avocados and things.
Nicole:But, yeah, like, plants can sort of help with
Nicole:the repair of that sheath, which means our nerves are communicating better, which means
Nicole:our whole nervous system is functioning better.
Nicole:Yeah. Nerve tonics can also support the.
Nicole:What we call the HPA axis.
Nicole:And again, I talk about the this in the course in detail, but it's short for the hypothalamic
Nicole:pituitary adrenal axis.
Nicole:So this is like the kind of brain to adrenal glands, which are glands that sit on top of
Nicole:the kidneys that, like,
Nicole:are activated when we're in our kind of fight and flight response.
Nicole:And they communicate the body to.
Nicole:Right, okay, let's go.
Nicole:Go, go.
Nicole:Like, release adrenaline,
Nicole:release blood sugar to move all of this stuff.
Nicole:So herbs can help this axis, like, to function
Nicole:better or to function more kind of optimally.
Nicole:It probably doesn't make any sense, but, yeah, it makes sense in the course because I go into
Nicole:you know, research around plants like licorice for example, and the adrenals.
Nicole:Nerve tonics can also like the other categories like help to address sleep
Nicole:disturbances, like more of a kind of longer term nature.
Nicole:They often have a lot of antioxidants which are really supportive to all our cells, but
Nicole:especially the immune system.
Nicole:They can help with the production of various neurotransmitters.
Nicole:They often have an affinity with the liver, which is really important because the liver is
Nicole:what sort of metabolizes and processes our stress hormones and the sort of environmental
Nicole:demands that we're under, which is, you know, another,
Nicole:not sneaky but another major cause of stress, especially in capitalism.
Nicole:So yeah, our nerve tonics are just doing so many things.
Nicole:They often help improve circulation to the brain central nervous system.
Nicole:They've commonly got like a real like gut repair affinity as well.
Nicole:So there's so much information these, these days around gut flora and the microbiome and
Nicole:how that relates to inflammation and like the gut brain access and how like emotional health
Nicole:is like massively influenced by the strains of bacteria we have.
Nicole:Like this is just like a whole other world that's just like so fascinating.
Nicole:And again it's something I explore in the course, in the course.
Nicole:I would love to do like another module like focusing more on this specifically.
Nicole:But yeah, these nerve tonics often have like an affinity with the GI tract.
Nicole:They can also help with like nerve pain issues like sciatica or you know, address things like
Nicole:blood sugar imbalances that contribute to anxiety.
Nicole:So yeah, a whole plethora of actions that can really help.
Nicole:I think nerve tonics are really fantastic at like preventing burnout but also sustaining
Nicole:you in times when actually you really just need a rest but you can't, you know, for
Nicole:example, someone you love died and you have to kind of keep going and organize the funeral
Nicole:and do all the things like that's when nerve tonics really come into their own.
Nicole:But they also are like formidable when we're like recovering from periods of chronic stress
Nicole:and trauma and exhaustion.
Nicole:Yeah, they're real, real, real allies.
Nicole:And the last category I wanted to introduce are stimulating nervines.
Nicole:So yeah, these are again herbs with an affinity for the nervous system, but they have
Nicole:like a gentle stimulating action.
Nicole:And when I talked about the nervous system states, I know it was a teeny tiny
Nicole:introduction, but not everyone is in this like fight or flight, fierce aggression, kind of
Nicole:hyper, anxious, hyper angry state.
Nicole:Like lots of people are actually very shut down and have like a depression of function.
Nicole:So they might, might feel depressed Emotionally, but they might also have a
Nicole:depression of function in terms of more fatigue or, you know, like a kind of lack of
Nicole:movement or like feelings of brain fog,
Nicole:you know, like problems with their blood pressure, like, you know, like pots.
Nicole:Like, things like this can often be when someone is in this, like, shutdown state.
Nicole:And yeah, like, we don't necessarily want to work with like hardcore stimulants, like
Nicole:coffee that can, you know, maybe tip someone over the edge.
Nicole:Because sometimes in this state, it's still quite likely that there's like this fight or
Nicole:flight kind of activation in the background, but it's kind of like trapped.
Nicole:Does that make sense? It will, yeah, it will all make sense in the
Nicole:course, like in the polyvagal lesson.
Nicole:But yeah, like, our gentle stimulants can help with getting blood flow to the brain.
Nicole:They can, yeah, help kind of people feel a bit more like, uplifted, like, recover some,
Nicole:like, kind of vitality.
Nicole:And they often have like, neuroprotective,
Nicole:like, antioxidants, which makes them like, really fantastic for things like headaches and
Nicole:migraines and concentration.
Nicole:And, you know, they often also have an affinity with the gut.
Nicole:They're often very warming and drying or antimicrobial.
Nicole:Again, just this like, gut brain access is so interesting.
Nicole:And they're often sort of relaxant as well, but not in a kind of like, sedating sense, but
Nicole:in a kind of muscle tension, relaxing, like, antispasmodic way.
Nicole:So some of the stimulating nerve ions I explore in the course include rosemary,
Nicole:hyssop, sage and thyme.
Nicole:So, yeah, so that is just like really brief introduction to how herbs can support with
Nicole:trauma.
Nicole:Like I mentioned earlier, it is the act of herbalism that is really, really healing.
Nicole:It is the foraging, the gardening, the feeling less alone because you're like connected to
Nicole:this web of life.
Nicole:You know, like, that's the stuff that's really life changing.
Nicole:But when we're kind of like dancing, so, so to speak with the world, like, we're experiencing
Nicole:these different expressions of distress, whether that's nightmares or flashbacks or
Nicole:feeling rage and anger.
Nicole:Like hubs can play a massive role in supporting us.
Nicole:They can help us like, you know, move those emotions through us, like express our grief,
Nicole:express our feelings.
Nicole:They can help help kind of calm us down and
Nicole:they can also help stimulate us.
Nicole:Right? So yeah, they are just really flexible.
Nicole:And you know, the herbalism, PTSD and traumatic stress course is like, I'd like to
Nicole:say it's a one of a kind course, but it really is like an in depth introduction to all of
Nicole:these plants.
Nicole:So, yeah, you know, and you also learn all the medicine making and how to prepare them and
Nicole:where to start if you're overwhelmed.
Nicole:Like, do you work with this plant or this
Nicole:plant or this plant?
Nicole:Yeah, I've kind of put all of that in a really structured way.
Nicole:So, yeah, it's open until the 13th of April,
Nicole:so please jump in there.
Nicole:There's a whole episode about the sliding
Nicole:scale and why no one is turned away for lack of funds.
Nicole:But please, yeah, listen to that and don't hesitate to join it for free if you need.
Nicole:I did put an email out recently asking people to share it on their network.
Nicole:So I'm so, so grateful to everyone that's done that because it's just made a world of
Nicole:difference sense in terms of who the course can reach and generating some funds and stuff,
Nicole:because this course,
Nicole:you know, funds, like all of this stuff,
Nicole:you know, all of this work in the world.
Nicole:So, yeah, I'm just so grateful for everyone's
Nicole:interest.
Nicole:And yeah, it will be open again for enrollment
Nicole:at the end of October this year.
Nicole:But if you want to kind of embrace the spring now and, yeah, start your journey with plants
Nicole:or deepen it.
Nicole:You know, maybe you're already a herbalist if
Nicole:you're listening to this podcast, but, yeah, I think herbs are like the most, most amazing
Nicole:allies in terms of accompanying us through a lifetime of,
Nicole:you know, potential stressful and difficult and traumatic experiences.
Nicole:And, you know, they can help us show up for others as well.
Nicole:So, yeah, please check out the course.
Nicole:And yeah, thank you for listening.
Nicole:Okay, take care.
Nicole:Thanks so much for listening to the Frontline
Nicole:Herbalism Podcast.
Nicole:You can find the transcript, the links, all
Nicole:the resources from the show at Solidarity apothecary.
Nicole:Org Podcast.